Moog or Whiteline Endlinks? Vote and Comment, Please!

Discussion in 'Mazdaspeed 3 Suspension & Brakes' started by Redline, Mar 17, 2016.

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Which endlinks to use for reliable, quiet, long-term DD'ing

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  1. Redline

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    TL;DR Tried both. Not sure which to end up using.

    Longer version:
    Had Moogs on. Silent for thousands of miles...yay!! Then, the dreaded clunking I had began, which is the reason I replaced the stockers to begin with. Also, top zerks were very difficult to orient in a manner that a grease gun could easily access. Racing shop (who eats/sleeps/breathes suspension) did the install. Checked out my clunking and verified my driver's side Moog went bad.

    Ordered/installed Whitelines at same shop. Dead silence post-install... yay! Now hearing clunking again, but this time it took much fewer miles to develop (maybe 1k). I can return them through Edge for a refund, but not sure what to do.

    Option One: tighten down the Whitelines really good and make sure they use blue loctite on the studs/nuts where they're connected to the LCAs.

    Option Two: install the brand-new, warranty replaced Moogs I got when the old ones failed. Make sure a crow's foot is wedged into the LCA and use blue loctite to honk it down really good/avert future issues. Bonus points if zerks can all be oriented to be easily accessible.

    What would you do? Share your experience with either Whitelines/Moogs/both, please? Is having silent RSB endlinks merely a pipedream?

    BTW, I run a JBR 125 in the middle setting, just FYI
     
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    Why create a new thread for something already being discussed in another?
     
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    Because votes and specific comments regarding people who have actually used both. I was actually hoping the commenters in the other thread would come in here and explain their experiences in even greater degree. Besides, my very long first post seemed like it should be its own thread.
     
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    I have whiteline endlinks waiting to be installed so personally I would be curious if the loctite would work.
     
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    Ever try the Moogs?
     
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    I have not, sadly so my input probably wouldn't mean much :p
    Judging from your experience I think I am going to just put loctite on them during the install.
    Sorry, wish I could have been more help.
     
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    I have tried several end links, front and rear, including Whiteline. Ended up with Moog. All others started making noise in less than 10k miles.
     
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    Sooooooo, the problem was just loose LCA mounting nuts on the Whitelines. Tightened back down with blue loctite. No noises. Hopefully I let the loctite cure long enough before driving too much. I just want to be done with this! It's been 3 sets of endlinks and over 10k miles since I've had a permanent solution; just ready to be done, LOL
     
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    I haven't tried either, but I am about to install the CorkSport Adjustable Front Endlinks and perhaps that could open up a third option for you :)
     
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    Well, tightened everything up, and it was quiet for a while. The Whitelines definitely haven't failed. But slowly/surely they're making noises again, bit by bit, louder by louder. I think I just need to throw some washers/lock washers/blue loctite up there and it should be golden.
     
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    centric has a 'new" line of suspension parts. i say "new" b/c i don't know when they actually released it. i wonder how they'd hold up. pictures are hard to come by, though.

    this is supposed to be from their premium line. they have two and this is the better of the two. part number 606.45013. from what i see they're about $30 each and not adjustable.

    this is all i could find.
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    Not wanting them to break is a given. But for me, not wanting things to loosen up/rattle is my main deal. Both the Moogs and the Whitelines are plenty robust. I just want quiet back there. I don't think that's too much to ask for, especially if the stock ones pulled this off before I swapped RSBs. I mean, how hard is it to have tightened nuts stay in place?!? o.0

    If the combination of washers, lock washers, and loctite doesn't do it, I don't know what else to do, Maybe locknuts too!?!? This is pretty ridiculous at this point. Hopefully those centrics have zero issues for you, LOL
     
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    I don't have a speed anymore. I traded it for a fusion and a nice check back from the dealer. I did just receive some centric premium ball joints for the bronco, though. We'll see how they hold up soon enough.

    And, since they have treated me so well on the speed and my bronco, i'm expanding my centric brake rotor usage to my wife's escape.
     
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    I got my whitelines bolts all snug, but I've still got noise. They're not dead, but I don't think I'll get quiet anymore from them. The front had been noisy for a while now. I may just try to find a replacement piece to spin into the vertical housing if I get too bothered by it.

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    I think that the endlinks on the front mounting to the strut is partial to blame for the short life. on most vehicles I've worked on the sway bar endlink mounts to the lower control arm. This allows for a shorter endlink as well.
     
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    I don't know anything about this. I'm still on stock front endlinks at 70k miles and I've never had any issues.
     
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    Oem endlinks ftw. Replaced my oem endlinks with white lines front and rear around 100k miles just to do it. The fronts lasted 5k miles or so before starting to clunk, and eventually broke. Replaced them with another set, which promptly broke in another 5-6k. The rears lasted maybe 15k before the threads on the adjustable portion pulled themselves out. Went back to oem front and rear endlinks, and haven't had an issue since. Chassis now has 200k.

    I should note, the car has had Hotchkis 32mm front and rear sway bars since 25k miles, with the rear bar on full stiff. The car had H&R Coilovers from 50k to 125k. And has been running mazdaspeed coilovers (kw v3 variant) from 125k to 200k. For whatever reason, the whitelines, even adjusted to the proper lengths, couldn't take the abuse I put the car through.
     
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    My Front Moogs sucked. The grease fittings are too big and hit the inner part of the car.

    Im running a larger RSB and haven't had issues with my Mevotech in the rear.
     
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    Update: well, it seems like I have a little noise from the Whitelines every now and then, like when only one side of the car goes over a speed bump. And even then, it's sporadic. Seems like everything is holding up fine, and it's so slight that I question if it's my imagination. Time will tell. When you start getting the noises, they definitely get much more frequent and louder over time. Fingers crossed...
     
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    I had to use different zerk fittings so my moogs wouldn't hit in the front. I had hotchkis sway bars front and rear, cobb springs, bilstein struts and shocks. I'm pretty sure the rears were clunking by the time i traded it in
     
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