New Product Release!! Mazda 3 and Mazdaspeed 3 Oil Cooler Kits

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  1. Yatta

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    ok.. this might be asking too much... but... offer a mounting kit for the TMIC location ? Gen Jaun has ducting and Gen Pu has scoop... for the people needing this, NOT blocking FMIC and NOT blocking radiator is a plus... as the sandwich part is ready for hoses the only concern might be air being trapped? a filler on the side might fix that.
     
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    I rather do that safely with a specialist like how raider tested the bumper fixes.
     
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    There are actually two but one is located on the engine block side of the sandwich plate rendering it unusable. A 1/8' T fitting will allow for two sensors to be run off the one available port.
     
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    Not possible to put on on the top.

    The current location, albeit in front of the radiator, did not restrict flow causing any increase in coolant temperatures during track testing.
     
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    Has the the cooler been tested in the winter in regards to oil coming up to temperature? Seems like a thermostat would benefit winter warm up?
     
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    We have oil coolers in all our test cars and shop cars and yes, they have been all running in very cold weather. Sandwich plates with thermostats open at about 185* give or take. Your oil will reach this temperature very quickly with or without an oil cooler. To spend the extra money on a sandwich plate with a thermostat is just a wast of money or we'd offer it. Plus, it's a point of failure that also makes it not worth it. Let the car run for a few minutes on very cold days if low oil temperature is a concern.

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    Shipped several of these. Hope to see some reviews soon.
     
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    Looking forward to some reviews as well because this seems to be big.
     
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    Any one have this installed and would like to share some photos?
     
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    I know this is a super old post, but I'm just now reading it and I'm curious why? The Gen2 hood scoop is designed to smash air into the TMIC, and that airflow stops there. There has been previous chatter by engineers a lot smarter than me in other parts of the interwebz about leaving the scoop open with a FMIC causing a pressure increase in the engine bay that may interfere with proper airflow through the radiator, CAUSING a lot of the heat issues. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems logical to return that scoop to functional use with the oil cooler. I suppose the limitation is getting the oil to travel up to the cooler, but couldn't that be done with a scavenge pump? I'm not going to ditch the FMIC...ever...but I am definitely interested in cooler oil.
     
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    I think a general consensus was reached among a group of us that it would be better to use an oil cooler system that features a thermostat. @Maisonvi had devised a custom one that he was running on his car.
     
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    Some Subaru guys run the oil cooler on top, but it would be a task to route the lines around the IM and/or intake. Nothing stopping you, but if it develops a leak from a loose fitting it'll splatter oil all over the engine bay instead of just by the intercooler.

    Optional but not needed. Tomas on MSF ran one for a long time and said he noticed no difference with the thermostat except that it threw a low oil dummy light for a few seconds at start up. Besides, unless you completely bypass the OEM cooler as well there would be no need for an oil thermostat anyway. The cooler would have its greatest effect at high RPM, while the rest of the time it would be affected more by the OEM cooler. Not all oil cooler kits in the market have a thermostat in line. I think you could simply taylor it to your needs.
     
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    Thomas also lives where its warm. In michigan where I was driving my car in -20 some days, thermostat is what let my car warm up at a reasonable rate.

    Also, I did completely delete the OEM oil cooler as well, so that was part of it too.
     
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    5-10 minutes at idle even in the coldest of climates will warm-up the car up with no need for a thermostat. Never liked getting to into a freezing car anyway and the transmissions barely shift if at all until warm. We're still sticking with there being no need for a thermostat.
     
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    Not for nothing, but five or ten minutes of idling when it's 10° or lower here in WI absolutely doesn't have my car warmed up. I can only imagine how an additional oil cooler would affect that.
     
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    Yeah I dont know about you, but 10+ min of waiting to let my car warm up isnt going to happen every time I need to go somewhere. time is money, and for $100 I put in a thermostat so instead of 10+ min to warm up, it was under 5. There was a noticeable difference for sure. Not that I really jumped on the throttle right away in the cold anyway. But my time is worth more to me than sitting waiting in the drive way or parking lot.

    That said, no I dont think most people need a thermostat, but the people who say no one needs one are wrong.
     
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    Where are the reviews for this product? None posted on here it seems... Has anyone tried it yet?

    I'm curious what oil cooler core you guys are using and what supports it at the bottom besides the two lines. Tempted to take the plunge, but need more info/consumer testimony buy-in
     
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    Any way to make this work for fmic guys? I am sure most people who would have a need for this are fmic.
     
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    Pretty sure if it was easily possible, it would be an option.
     
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    Routing didnt look too intrusive in the installation PDF JBR has up. So probably just a couldnt/wouldnt say it would fit all configurations sort of cop out.
     
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