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  1. Adapted_Performance

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    Been working on some prototypes of new parts for the speeds.

    I made a billet bracket to replace the rear tmic mount and allow you to attach the support for the power steering hose that normally connects to the bracket. (for gen 1 & possible speed 6) Wont apply to the gen 2 cars.

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    This one is something I can produce in house on the mill.

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    Also did some 3d printing for some other parts. Just need a final test fit prior to making the first parts out of metal.

    A BASIC EGR DELETE KIT - Should sell for $24 for the primary delete and $12 for the secondary delete kit.

    AN EBCS BRACKET THAT MOUNTS ON THE EGR DELETE - Should work with all primary egr delete kits and allow you to mount a stock or aftermarket electronic boost control solenoid in it's place.

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    PCV PLATE WITH INTERNAL BAFFLES AND AN INTERNAL OIL SEPARATOR FOR THE PCV VALVE -

    There will be more info on these shortly as well, but it's basically a baffled pcv plate and it will have some mesh inside to separate oil vapor prior to the pcv valve. The mesh is only for the pcv air path, but the internal baffle will help keep oil splash from reaching the additional 3/8 npt bung for a catch can to run to.

    This kit will use an all metal 1 way valve in place of the factory plastic pcv valve.

    The idea here is that this will eliminate the need for a catch can between the pcv plate and the intake manifold, and still provide a secondary port to run a catch can to and let the crankcase breathe.

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    dang nice! how much for the ac bracket thing
     
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    I'm still working on fine tuning these so they cut a little nicer. I'm going to try cut out a whole sheet of them tomorrow, I think these will be anywhere from $10 - $15 depending on a few factors. But it is a nice and easy way to do it.
     
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    I'm down for the ac line bracket. No more zip ties!!
     
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    PCV plate you say, I'm lazy and don't see a need to remove my intake yet, but when I do I will be replacing the stock plate. Currently I've been setup with a catch can and egr delete since 1k miles. I'm almost at 44k now and I'm curious what my valves look like. Hopefully you'll have the plate ready by the time I'm ready to pull the intake.

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    If that PCV plate removes the need for running 2 catch cans and allows the 26+psi guys to just run a VTA can, that'd be an awesome item to add to my "one day when I build" list. So I guess the two parts sandwich together? Shouldn't they both have captive gaskets?

    I do like the fact that that DM one has two ports besides the PCV port to allow for even more extra blow-by gasses to flow out of the crankcase. Think you may incorporate/offer a 3-port version?
     
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    my question would be is, with the pcv plate like that would the oil end up pooling at the bottom of the plate?
     
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    That baffled PCV plate looks like a really clever solution to the problem. Interested to see how it develops.
     
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    I think that's the point - to condense the oil back out of the oil vapor and have it drain back into the pan rather than having an OCC do the same thing yet trapping it elsewhere. That'd require hole drilled in the block behind the plate, or some type of drain system on this plate. I'm pretty sure you'd need a check valve for the vapors going into the channels, then another check valve for oil to go out of the plate. Otherwise, if it was evenly pressurized throughout its interior, one port wouldn't act as an entry, and the other act as an exit, right?
     
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    The pcv plate will most likely produced with 2 ports for venting and a 3rd port for a pcv valve.

    The two plates would be sealed by rtv sealant. There are 4 bolts to hold the plates together and the whole assembly would be further compressed and sealed when bolted to the block.

    internally, there are 2 slots for a couple pieces of expanded metal that will have stainless steel mesh in between them. This will prevent / reduce oil vapor from being drawn into the intake manifold through the pcv valve.

    Also the beauty of the two piece design means the mesh will be serviceable, so about as often as you clean valves, you can open up the plate and either clean or replace the mesh.

    The design itself will allow oil to pool and self drain back into the block. The ladder design will help reduce the amount of oil that could go into a catch can from just simply splashing around. It will allow vapor during wot to vent to any catch can, but will prevent oil vapor from getting into the intake manifold through the pcv circuit.
     
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    Well, I tweaked the design one more time and ended up machining 7 of these this morning.

    Now to decide how to finish them. Might just de burr and clear coat. I think the raw aluminum looks really good.

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    Also the bracket for the p/s hose is only going to be applicable to a gen1 speed 3.
     
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    Sounds good, in theory. I'd kinda like to see a diagram, being a visual thinker. I have a picture in my mind of what that section of the block looks like/the slots it has, but a visual representation with arrows indicating flow under vacuum, and another with the same during boost would help guys like me, I think.
     
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    I highly advise against drilling any kind of hole in the block as I did this to use the topspeed PCV plate for the duratec block and I could not clean the metal shavings enough and they got in my oil and it killed my garrett turbo and i had to get a new CHRA. The fucked up thing about grinding aluminum is that the dust does not like to wash away even with aggressive washing so i really advise against any kind of drilling unless the block is dissasembled and able to go in a parts washer. I will never try that again.

    the topspeed plate was flat so i cut shark teeth like grooves in the metal bar behind the plate to allow air to pass, big mistake. I should have stuck with OEM or got a perm plate. 1000$+ mistake
     
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    That's some good wisdom, right there. Just for the sake of visualization, this is what the block side looks like. In this pic, mods were obviously made, but you get a good idea:
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    No drilling needed. Oil would simply run back into the block from the plate when you are off of wot.
     
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    i would be in for a test sample piece for cheap!!
     
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    6 brackets for the gen 1 ps hose
     
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    Im in for one! set it up
     
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    Yeah, makes sense now that I've dug up a pic of what's under there. I've not seen a lot of engines with the plate off before. Any concern about WOT'ing too much and not having enough low-throttle situations for it all to drain back, like when tracking or auto-xing?
     
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