A discussion on mitigating engine bay heat

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  1. Raider

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    OK, so the thing arrived (overnight parts from GA!) in a box as big as my back hatch, Inside, 50 air packs and a box with the tray. Looks like the plastiuc pinas are really not the tabs, but the 2 inside spots next to the middle bolt. One of the speed nut clips did arrive loose, as the plastic tab it clips under was broken. Fixed by squeezing. Anyway, will install soon.
     

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    If anyone wants some cheap extra plastic pushpins:

     
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    I should order a few sets and send em out with the stickers.
     
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    Uh, did you forget to link something?
     
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    @Raider looks like a good opportunity for a how to. If we have started a trend of people reinstalling their undertrays it would be helpful for those that don't remember where the hardware goes.

    Shit it could just be a straight on photo of the tray with some labels on it.
     
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    Smartass...
     
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    Well once you hold it up there it kinda gets self explanatory. I never had one and its in, not loose or sagging.
     
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    Its been done, the trick is finding a way to trim the edge so its not to hidous. also, lots of cars BMW, Jeep) use functional vents that can be modded into a speed hood
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    I used a wireless grill thermometer, with 2 probes, and got some Ideas where things were hotter and cooler, did some temp wrapping to see if it helped. nearly got banned for posting a pic with some results HAHA one thing that does help is the airfoil cross section shaped piece of sheet aluminum that covers the gap between the bumper, and core support on cars with the TMIC ducting removed.

    I'm also partway thru putting a piece of thin sheet between the radiator and IM to try to duct all RAD,AC,IC heat under the engine. its very tight space, and bloody dificult to form.

    The hardest things in this are 1 the essentially different issues between heat transfer of the stationary and moving car
    and 2 ejecting the heat away from the IM

    Cuz really, its the BAT's that drive this discussion
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    OOppps, yeah I shoulda read the hole thread..... Yes, that thing helps a good bit. air is like string, in that its easier to pull than push
    it will take the path of least resistance and going thru 3 separate cores is not easy, that hole you covered helps keep it from bypassing the cores. and yours is prettier than mine......... go figure
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    Dunno about that, Zeus had his nuts removed at 11 months, and at 4years old was absolutely knocking the back outta the neighbors dog when she went into heat.

    I think he gonna have to Piss off Lorena Bobbit...... Thats been proven to work
     
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    Cuz really, its the BAT's that drive this discussion
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    For me it's not BATs I'm concerned about (with a TR8 and spraying methanol, besides running an ethanol mix). My biggest concern is combustion chamber heat management to prevent ringlands issues.

    With all of this talk about skid plates, anyone consider running CS's aluminum one? They make them for both Gens.
     
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    Love the Idea, but sadly a real bitch to do, cuz of that engine and wiring and hoses etc very inconviently in the way
     
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    I was being serious. Lots of people are really stupid so it could help lots of people.
     
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    Haha. I'll make one.

    So I need the engineering cert -#?
     
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    If you need an engineer to tell you that you installed a bolt correctly you have bigger problems.
     
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    Well it is a picture from a plane, they usually have more space in the nose.
     
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    They will boldly install the bold following my how-to im bold font.
     
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    I've been removing and installing my undertray to do engine work, for the past 6 years! My Gen1 uses 3 10mm bolts across the front and then 2 on each side toward the rear of the tray. So 7 total. No clips.
     
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    Maybe a gen1/GenPu thing.
     
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    You're missing the pushpins then. All Gen 1's came from the factory with two pushpins in addition to the seven bolts.

    They're only to help with alignment and holding the undertray in place while you bolt / unbolt it, so don't worry about them being missing.
     
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    Yeah something weird is happening with that link... When I came back to this thread today it just took me to the homepage of Amazon, but then leaving and coming back shows the correct link again. Weird.
     
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