max weight reduction while stayng street legal

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  1. Ms3geo

    Ms3geo Greenie N00B Member

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    i am curious abut how much weight you can remove from the gen 1 ms3 before it isnt legal to drive on the road i know its going to be super noisy but i am not going to use it outside of racing
     
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    You can remove anything you want as long as it passes inspection
     
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    In Maryland I just need windows and lights otherwise I can gut whatever I want
     
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    I can tell you my 07 MZ3 is 3180 lbs 1/2 tank of gas, me (195), stock interior, stock front crashbar, fmic, stock wheels 225/40x18 tires, stock interior, no cats downpipe, tube exhaust manifold and stock exhaust, full carbon fiber hood air ductwork deleted (huge difference), carbon fiber rear hatch (stock window) no rear crash bar and fiberglass rear bumper/lower fender.
     
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    thx for the reply, i am going to start to strip out my gen1 when i get around to it and lets see how much weight i can remove, i was debating to keep it a daily or a weekend car but screw it

    damn thats pretty light for a car with full interior
     
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    I got my Mazdaspeed6 down to 3,150 lbs; sub 2,900 lbs in a Mazdaspeed3 should be easily doable without going completely Code Monkey.
     
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    So has anyone calculated the extra power/speed gained from shedding any particular amount of weight? Well I’m sure someone has but I’m wondering if anyone here can report their own gain.
     
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    aceleration according to newtons 2nd law equals force divided by mass, if we reduce the weight by lets say 10% it will accelirate 11 % faster from 0 to top speed, now this is a very oversimplified example and there are a lot more that changes when you reduce the weight of a car like the friction between the road and tyres reduces, car lifts up so there is more aerodynamic drag whitch reduces aceleration etc.
     
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    I feel like the old drag racing line was 100 lb = 0.1 sec in the 1/4
     
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    Interesting. I can feel my Speed6 slow down with every additional person that gets in it. When 4 people are in there it feels fairly draggy (relatively). I would imagine that weight slows it down more than 0.5 seconds :) So I was just curious what kind of improvement I could feel based on weight reduction, and now I’m starting to think about what non-invasive things I can take out to save weight…
     
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    Here are some formulas you can play with to calculate 1/4 mile time based on weight and hp.
     
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    Any updates on this? I’m curious to about shaving weight. Kinda curious if you done before and after weights and what all you removed
     
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    If you're keeping it as a street car keep in mind the fact that weight does reduce damage in an impact. If you truly wanted weight reduction you'd gut the doors, install plexiglass windows, weld in door reinforcement, strip sound deadening from under the carpet, strip the wire harness of unused wire for things like radio, HVAC etc.

    It's going to be incredibly noisy without interior panels and other misc things you remove. You'll hear rattles, rocks/debris hitting the undercarriage, and tire noise constantly.

    Things like carbon fiber doors, hatch, hood, panels can make a big difference and still maintain rigidity.
     
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