Let's talk SS brake lines

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  1. Awafrican

    Awafrican Moderator Gold Member

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    Hey guys,

    So I'm about due for a clutch / brake fluid flush / bleed and I figure I may aswell upgrade to SS brake lines while I'm at it.

    My question is should I go with stop tech lines or techna-fit lines and why for each.
     
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    Stop Tech tests each of their lines, are DOT compliant, and I believe tests to the highest pressures (compared to techna fit). I have a set waiting to go on.
     
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    The ones you can get on Rock Auto are Stoptech and they're a great price. That's what I did, and I've heard nothing but good things about their lines. Zero issues.
     
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    Stoptech are the way I've been leaning but lately I've been hearing some people talk about technafit so I was wondering what the deal was with them.

    Didn't realize rockauto had the stop tech and yup that's a good price
     
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    StopTech over Technafit for sure. And yes, please get them from RockAuto for mad cheap. StopTech lines with centric blanks from RockAuto is best bang for the buck stock brake setup for sure. I've been using the StopTech street pads as well since they're available on RA for so cheap. Combined with some ATE Type 200 fluid it's a pretty competent setup.

    I've installed both StopTechs and Technafit on Speeds and the StopTechs fit much, much better. The Technafits were just not nearly as nice in fit and finish. Plus the testing and DOT compliance gives them an edge like @neganox stated above.
     
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    either will be OK, but as others have said:

    StopTech > Techna-fit
     
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    Awesome, Stoptech it is, which is what my hunch was anyway, will be keeping stock rotors and pads for now as they still have life in them, I just figured while I'm bleeding may aswell upgrade lines
     
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    Get the Centric high-carbons when it's time. Great replacements, great price. I went with the CS pads. I like them pretty well, though I'd say they're definitely geared more toward DD'ing than occasional track/auto-x.
     
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    Goodridge and Technafit lines are also DOT compliant.

    As for StopTech pressurizing their lines up to 4,500psi, that seems to be standard fare as far as compliance for FMVSS 106 Burst Testing protocol...

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    As per FMVSS 106:

    "Expansion and burst strength. The maximum expansion of a hydraulic brake hose assembly at 1,000 psi, 1,500 psi and 2,900 psi shall not exceed the values specified in Table I (S6.1), except that a brake hose larger than3/16inch or 5 mm is not subject to the 2,900 psi expansion test requirements. The hydraulic brake hose assembly shall then withstand water pressure of 4,000 psi for 2 minutes without rupture, and then shall not rupture at less than 7,000 psi for a1/8inch, 3 mm, or smaller diameter hose, or at less than 5,000 psi for a hose with a diameter larger than1/8inch or 3 mm (S6.2)."

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    I'll probably get yellow stuff pads
     
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    Yellow stuff pads are great. I used them for both DD and track duty and they held up just fine.
     
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    I have the stoptech lines but sadly could not get them on. Had a set of flare nut wrenches and soaked the nuts in liquid wrench. Just kept on slipping no matter what i tried. I just admitted defeat before i completely rounded the nut. Maybe ill try again when i get a better set of wrenches. Craftsman let me down...
     
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    I have stop tech lines I need to install as well. Craftsman now has a lot of cheaply made tools with their name on them. I've heard the flare wrenches are the worst.

    I have a seat of Gearwrench flare wrenches, and I just used the 14mm and a hammer to take off my front endlinks because I only had a twelve point box end and it kept slipping. I was very impressed with the performance, and they were reasonable on Amazon.

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    I have goodridge lines and like them. I imagine they are all pretty comparable.
     
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    Do you have a blow torch handy?? Heat is your friend in this situation...
     
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    Had same issue. If it's on hard line side, then torch will melt rubber line off before any magic happens to the threads and brake fluid will keep it cooling down.
    May be try better tools - e.g. Knipex pliers wrench
     
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    This past weekend I attempted to install my stoptech lines. One line for the rear didn't have enough threads on the connection for the hardline, so that one is getting returned. The front passenger side flare nut rounded nicely and now has me ordering a new hardline from mazda. We tried two sets of pipe wrenches and then vice grips nailed the coffin shut. Great times!
     
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    Well that's disconcerting, my stop tech lines should arrive this week....
     
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    Maybe I won't try to install mine before the Dragon

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    Man, it's crazy that you guys are running into so many problems. I've put lines on 4-5 Speeds now with no issues at all. I have found that PB Blaster and a decent set of flare wrenches is key though.
     
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