Honda Sidewinder on Mazdaspeed

Originally I wasn't going to make a thread like this, I don't think there's all too much that makes my build special, but @Enki convinced me. This isn't a full build diary, most of my build is pretty much done, but I'm going be highlighting me going big turbo.

First and foremost, some context on the dinner wagon so far (just the highlights):

• 08 speed3, sitting on full whiteline suspension and full TB performance bracing and traction bars
• Built engine (Manley platinum extremes, H-Tuffs, Mountune crank, King bearings all around, studded, some other stuff) built by yours truly
• Mishimoto S-line intercooler, converted to gen 2 filter housing with Damond cooler, FoST intake manifold with port injection spacer
• Tuned by Damond

Of course, there's so much more. That's the highlights though (as of today I've sunk $30,000 into my speed), the speed is my time attack car. Now as cool as replacing my k04 multiple times has been from running them at 25psi consistently, it's time to upgrade. I got my speed completely stock after it was abandoned for 3 years. Rebuilt (and built) everything myself.

So why make a thread at all? Seems pretty cookie cutter, if you ask me. Though I suppose there's not a whole lot that can be done differently at this point, given the age of the Mazdaspeed platform.

First and foremost, this is a sidewinder setup, using a BullBoost sidewinder for a K20/K24. Secondly, I have a TurboSmart TS-1 5862. Now I've emailed a few companies, and as far as I have done my research, nobody has ran a TS-1 on a Mazdaspeed yet. The usual suspects are PT5862s, some Garretts, you get the idea.

So why a sidewinder? Well, I work on my car pretty much daily. When it's not on track it's on the street (save for daily driving, obviously). Turbo behind the engine sucks. Maybe if you put it in the car once and never touch it again, it's whatever, but that is definitely not me. Of course it looks cool, too. As for the TS-1? Well, I wanted to be different. The compressor maps don't look too crazy for a Mazdaspeed, and while I was at LS fest I was able to get hands on with a TS-1 and talk to some guys from TurboSmart. I was content with the conversations about the TS-1s enough to at least give them a chance. Worst comes to worst, I get a PT. So this is an experiment, and if you know me, you know I don't shy away from being experimental with my speed.

TS-1 5862 Compressor Map:



I'm currently waiting on my TS-1 to arrive in the mail (some shipping oopsies occurred). As for my exhaust manifold, here's some images. I bought an MZR flange off of Massive Speed Systems, and will be having a local fabrication shop install the flange in place of the K20/K24 flange (with backpurging, of course). Some supports will be put in the runners as well. Odd how closely K20/K24 flanges have the runners line up with MZRs. That being said, if you don't have the deepest pockets in the world to spend on completely custom fabrication for an exhaust manifold, you will be able to get away with Honda manifolds with replaced flanges. Again, for me this was all an experiment, and you'll be seeing how this goes as I update this thread.





As far as finishing this off things I need:

• Split Second Controller and injectors (already have everything else for port injection setup, these two things are the only items I have yet to purchase)
• Clutch
• Oil feed and return lines
• A new hot side intercooler pipe
• Downpipe
• Wire tuck harness

Alright that's all I've got for now. I'll update later when more work gets done or parts get received, as well as answer any questions you guys might have.

 

Interesting how few bolts there are on the Honda flange in comparison

 

TS-1 was received today. Took some photos of it with and without the peel. Clocking was pretty simple, 6 13mm bolts for the compressor side, 5 13mm bolts on the turbine side. Not sure the length because I didn't think the measure them, but I could get the length if someone wants. Compressor housing comes with a speed sensor boss, so if anyone wants to use a speed sensor that has to be drilled out.

Specifically this is a TS-1 5862 0.82 A/R T4 inlet 3" V-band outlet.

Here's the core:



Compressor side of the core:



Turbine side:



Inside of the compressor housing:



Fully clocked:



Went to my local fab shop and got a quote for getting the MZR flange installed. $350 with back purging and some added support (due to the MZR flange being thinner than the Honda flange). That'll probably give a time gap between this post and when everything gets put on the speed, I'm collecting the other items I need to get this thing running.

I will be wrapping the exhaust and getting a blanket put on. Not sure if I want to powder coat my compressor housing yet.

 

Got some work done today. Pulled the old k04 out, pulled the exhaust manifold, mocked up the position of the TS-1 going in.

"I'm tired, boss."

This unfortunate k04 lost the lottery when it got shipped from CW, because it's had some hard miles put on it. When I pulled the oil return, nothing but coolant came out. And there was definitely oil in the intercooler piping as well. It's time it retires.



Of note, I'm using the Massive Speed MZR flange here. From MS, it's impossible to get this flange in without pulling the alternator, or modifying the flange. I overlayed the stock manifold onto the MS one, and scribed in the outline of the stock manifold to be able to pull this flange off and put it on without pulling the alternator. Here's an image of the flange, scribed with what will be cut off:



And lastly, the glory shot. As it sits, it's a little far to the left, so once the fab shop finishes up with my manifold/flange combo, it'll be to the right by about an inch, maybe two, but more than likely between that. Anyways, plenty of space to run this setup it seems, and even with a down pipe.



I've been working to get this all setup here, been rerouting (and in some cases redoing) wires, pulling off lines, you get the idea. The only thing I need at this point to just "key on" this thing is oil feed and return lines, an additional pipe to mate up to my existing FMIC setup (just a pipe with 2 90*s), and then a small intermediate intake pipe to hold the MAF.

Everything fits phenomenally, and I'm very happy that everything has worked out thus far.

 

Any plans to get heat shielding in place for the brake reservoir / around the turbo? Gonna get real toasty near a lot of sensitive components.

 

Absolutely. There's a Funk Motorsport blanket going on this (side note for anyone interested in running a FM blanket with a TS-1 5862 0.82 A/R, the exact blanket needed is their Mk3 blanket, optioned as a T3 size. I had to email them about this because it's not apparent which one to choose for the TurboSmart turbo. Link here: https://funkmotorsport.com/product/mk3-turbo-blanket/).

The brake master and heat shield are going to be reflective taped, as well as the exhaust manifold wrapped with exhaust wrap (same with the downpipe). Maybe even cerakoated in addition to all that.

 

Gee, it’s been a while. I got the manifold back from fabrication today. Fabricator worked some real magic. Then I had to work some magic.

Today the manifold was actually bolted to the engine. Turbo as well. What was unexpected was the engine lift point slightly interfered with runner #3. This wasn’t seen when I mocked everything up because it was hard to get a perfect idea when I couldn’t seat the manifold fully. My solution to this was to remove that lift point, then use a metal file and shave down the casting on the head slightly. There wasn’t enough material removed for me to be concerned. If I was able to identify this before hand, I would’ve added about a quarter or half an inch in runner length immediately off of the flange to prevent this though.

It looks very close, and it is, but with a wrap and a turbo blanket in additional to even more heat management (sleeves over the vacuum line to the brake booster, reflective tape on the brake master, etc) I’m not concerned at all. There’s no other physical interference anywhere, even if it looks like it.

I’m now working on the intake setup, along with redoing all the lines on the car. My split second controller is sitting doing nothing right now, I’m going to send it off to @Harnessed Performance for some magic tricks to be done there.

 

Another little update on the project. Engine is getting moved into a gen 2 body. I’ve been wanting to do this for a while, and finally acquired a silver 2013 like I’ve been wanting.

The only thing remaining on this setup for the engine is a new downpipe, oil lines, hot side intercooler pipe and a way to mount the MAF.

My gen 1 body is going to be turned into a different project, and the gen 2 had some carbon bits go on but after that only a lip and exterior is complete to my liking.