Shooting for that 700hp stock flange

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  1. Jimme T

    Jimme T Greenie Member

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    So I had everything to build my ms3 once before and it was stolen by my wife for the ms6 (which I stole back when she bought her 370z). So now I’m building Betty. (2007 MS3).
    Dropped the block off to have it decked today. Hoping to pick it up Wednesday. Get it assembled and do the engine swap this weekend.
    Build list is
    Eco boost crank
    Manley H-Tuff rods
    Manley platinum extreme duty pistons with .250 pins
    Oring block
    Ported head
    Supertech 70lb springs
    Sp63 stg3 cams
    CS 4” tip
    CS exhaust manifold
    CS 3.5” tbe
    CS large FMIC
    CS cst6 turbo
    CS fuel cell
    Damond PCV plate and catch cans
    JMF v2 intake
    ID1050x injectors
    Xclutch twin disk
    Grimmspeed ebcs
    ARP main studs
    L19 head studs
    SSC and wot box
    Tial 44mm wg
    Tuned by PD
     
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    Oh yeah
     
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    I’m hoping. Basically the same set up I run on my ms6. Little different head porting and a little more compression on this set up plus the cams. Ms6 made 636 awhp so we will see what happens….
     
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    What kinda compression!?
     
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    Not your kind lol. These engines are supposed to be 9.5:1 I believe. I have not personally seen this on any mzr I’ve taken apart. They come in closer to 9.17-9.23 from my measurements. The engine in the 6 came out to 9.2 after opening the combustion chamber and what I took off the head and block. The one going in the 3 should come out to a true 9.5:1 after opening the combustion chamber, milling .010 off the head and .020 off the block
     
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    That being said I haven’t ran the numbers yet to see what actual compression will be with the new cams
     
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    Didn’t get the motor done and installed this weekend like I had planned but got some pics 2FE59E71-04B2-4919-8A33-EEB2947F183A.jpeg 4379B3FB-1C15-4CEA-9988-A92F10070134.jpeg 1FE2A08E-2292-479D-BC74-D4718B9982A1.jpeg EED69D75-7EA4-47D7-8CD1-F47F1F8481F0.jpeg 429896E6-5015-4A76-B591-21F3B6360742.jpeg 80A76589-24E1-4C47-96E8-C65CCE5506D8.jpeg
     
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    Got my block cut today for the orings and 2 of the orings installed. And that’s about it. Lol. Really hoping to have everything done and ready to install this weekend. 572F1B15-2774-45C2-AE7C-55706B23C951.jpeg 44F5607D-0426-463B-B5D0-21D8A3AF0B57.jpeg
     
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    Nice pictures! Thank you for sharing.
    From previous personal water craft experience that using a small knife edge to scrape the sticky rust coatings on the steel "tubular" hose bibs while its so accessable. Just use very little force and do the scrape towards bumb edge, not removing or modification of ridge. I also turn knive edge at 90' and scrape around "nose" of pipe. Then if still not satisfied, some scotch bright to help clean, but not polish the surface. Especially the long metal piping from oil cooler, throttle body, over transmission to turbo water return and interior heater core.
    The one in the picture, I still had to redo Insitu after rebuild, those darn spring clamps sometimes just don't like clamping a new hose...
     
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    Thanks. I have machines that can clean all that but I try to leave it as stock “190,000 mile” as possible. It gets ran thru the tank to remove oil and grease and anything in the oiling or water jackets. All the gasket surfaces get cleaned and internals but everything else on the outside I keep lookin nasty.
     
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    Finished the orings today. Only time consuming thing I have left is setting the valve lash for the new cams and maybe freshen up the valve job. Going to check the valves tomorrow to see if any are leaking. Hoping to get this stuff done Friday night and assemble the engine Saturday morning. Swap the motors Saturday night and have running Sunday. We will see how that plan works out 3876AB6A-A05E-4070-98A1-997021C08513.jpeg
     
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    Once again I didn’t get the motor put in or finished last weekend. Cam spec sheet called for .014ex and .012in clearance. I didn’t have enough shims to set them exactly to those specs so I called to see if there was any variance like +/- .001 and they informed me they set them up to factory specs. But try to stay in the middle. Not sure why the cam spec sheet don’t say that but I suppose it is what it is. Got the valve lash done and the head bolted on. Oil pump and water pump is installed. Timing components are all on. Just need to lock everything down. Also verified true Tdc when timing plug bolt is installed. So trying to hopefully get it swapped this weekend. D5D43F4C-7B94-4B1C-B4E8-8373BCE48C07.jpeg EA27C807-C17B-4010-B3AF-85C7D0B9F48E.jpeg A27527DF-DA2D-4576-BD76-48F425671EED.jpeg
     
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    Damn I guess I forgot to update this like I wanted to. Car is back together and running. Working thru the tuning process. I still need to finish up the wiring and clean up the engine bay. Most of the wiring is wrapped up and tucked wherever I could fit it u til I knew everything was going to work like it should. Here is a link to the initial start up.
     
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    More pics
     

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    Been busy so I haven’t been online much. Figured I’d post an update. Car is up and running good but didn’t make the 700hp goal. It’s my daily when the weather isn’t shit. Dyno ended up being 675/540 so I’m happy with that. Traction is my problem I have to fix now. Overall I love the setup
     
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    i have a lot the same parts for my build my biggest concern are the h tuff rods can they handle 700-750
     
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    Yes
    I personally wouldn’t worry about it at all but if you are concerned then just upgrade the rod bolts.
     
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    Nice build! Let me know you want to talk wheels and tires...I've tried some things
     
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