street car gone road race

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  1. gotovato

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    if in fact you were talking about camber, im not sure whats the best, but i can tell you with 3* up front it made a huge difference. camber arms will go in in the spring and the rear will be aligned to 0*
     
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    Yes, camber :)
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    You know a lot about the subject jaja
     
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    ok well as of now, im running 3* in the front and 1.5* in the rear(havent installed camber arms yet). the rear will be adjusted for next season to 0. All i can say for now is that the difference from 1.5* camber in the front to 3* was night and day. 3* is WAY better. might even dial in a little more next year.
     
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    How do you know if you need more or less? Get a needle tire pyrometer.
     
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    yea pyrometer is something im going to get for next season and a good tire pressure gauge as well to start collecting this data. im unsure if i need more or less, but the grip so far is so much better
     
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    Yes I do. You dont play with dildo's or vibrators?
     
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    So, with the car now put away for the winter, it wont be touched until spring. I have a question about front sway bars and why for a fwd car? to my knowledge we upgrade the rear bar to help with rotation and to promote more over steer vs under steer. I noticed a big difference with the white rear sway vs stock. Now i wonder, whats the point of ever upgrading the front bar? is there a point on these cars? i figure if anything itll only cancel out the effectiveness of the rear bar upgrade ? Thoughts?
     
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    I have the whiteline FSB, been on the car for over 3 years now.

    Dont bother.

    I got it for roll resistance in the front.

    It does reduce the effectiveness of the rear bar oversteer, which I was ok with going in since I like neutral steering.

    The bar clunks because of movement. Its thicker and doesnt match the same angles as OEM, so it loudly bangs the chassis when the suspension compresses like when going over speed bumps.

    It also puts the endlinks at a weird angle. At full steering wheel turn, it'll snap the steering wheel back and out of your hands. I've checked for preload countless times, and even tried to change the angles of the endlink heads to match, and still no remedy.

    Not worth the money, time, or effort in labor. Stick with stock FSB.

    If you want to reduce roll, you are much better off going to stiffer springs rates on decent coilovers. Or even swapping the bushings in the front control arms to stiffer ones to tighten the front end up. Your money will net you better control in the front end than a FSB will. UNLESS you've already done that, dedicated to full race car duty, are on 900lb springs and still looking to reduce roll.
     
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    Well thank you for that information! i was already pretty against getting a FSB as it didnt make much sense to me but i see everyone selling them for our cars and i was just wondering if there was some point i was over looking.

    I was thinking about doing bushings as i know itll make a good difference, i believe white line makes them for gen2? I will have to search

    Money will be spent on some upgraded coil overs eventually as my basic KW V1 are very soft and getting near the end of their usefulness to me.

    Ive found one real option for quality track coil overs but they are extremely expensive and im just not at that point yet i dont think
     
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    Good coilovers are not cheap, but worth the money.

    It's been a while since I've looked into control arm bushings, I'm not sure if whiteline is still selling them for the gen2 front end or not.
     
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    its appears white line does offer something. sweet! wondering if its worth it
    https://whitelineperformance.com/collections/all/products/w53286-bushing-kit


    interms of coil overs that dont suck, there isnt much out there. ive been attracted to BC since they offer custom spring rates and valving but ive been told its china brand and its not worth the $3000 Canadian dollars.

    This leaves JRZ. really nothing to say about JRZ other then $$$$. will probably be a forever setup though but again, im just not sure im there yet
     
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