Transmission Fluid

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  1. Easter Bunny

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    The coldest I have been with the Ford fluid is probably 0 or 5 f It was fine maybe a little stiff for the first mile or two
     
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    Ford & Tribodyn?
     
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    I have only used whatever garbage came in the car and the Ford unicorn jizz I used the ford straight nothing added
     
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  5. Awafrican

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    been chatting to him, he said that -32f he doesn't have the crunch on Tribodyn, but he also replaced gears at the same time. I've gone ahead and ordered Tribodyn for the gen2 edt: for my -32f or lower winters
     
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    Have you looked at the prices on Rick auto they're definitely cheapest for the Ford stuff.
     
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    I noticed that while looking for the bob article, time changes prices, that link I found to MSF has Mr. Tightlips quoting jimellismazda having the oil pump at $202, its currently $282 thats a lot in a couple years. Oil shipping was a bigger deal 10 years ago as well, so it was nice to have a second local source
     
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    Powersteering should be M5(as in Mazda Five) not Mercon V. Don't know how much of a difference it will make for the PS but it makes a huge difference on mazda's automatic transmissions.
     
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    Right from the manual stipulates ATF M-V PXL_20210201_200557575.jpg


    I can see Mazda OEM having some different additives for transmission fluid just like the difference between redline, tribodyn and ford for manual transmission, I'm sure it'll play a role in the transmission, key word here I think is equivalent.

    I am running generic Mercon V ATF in my power steering on my gen2 speed for over a year now just fine, it's actually less noisy then the OEM stuff that was in there (probably as it was due for a flush). That said you've brought to light some key information

    There's a key post on bob is the oil guy that I found thanks to you, I may go ahead and swap fluids:
    "Mercon V is Mercon V. in Mazda speak, MV is the equivalant of FNR5 fluid, they are not compatible, and we have seen complete trans failures due to the use of Mercon V in a MV application."

    Post#2
    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/what-is-the-difference-between-mercon-v-and-mv.116763/


    Edit: another thread showing the fluid specs and where the Mercon V vs MV is listed, time for a power steering flush on my end thanks shawnmos for bringing this to light.
    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/mazda-mv-the-same-as-mercon-v.324121/
     

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    Update to back in topic: I've been using tribodyn for a year, in my 2013, yes gen 1 fluid weight recommendations as they don't make the gen 2 recommend viscosity, nothing new people have been running ford stuff in gen 2 for years.

    man it's great stuff even down at -43C, yes I daily my car in Canada land, certainly has transmission whine when bone cold but starts to go away quickly, shifts like absolute butter when warm. I also see the opposite with 40c+ in the summer and oh do I love driving it in the summer, no track days on it but spirited driving with shifts is a great.

    Honestly wish I had found this before redline, redline overall shifted better than OEM when warm but it had a nasty cold bite into 2nd I found, certainly improved on the tribodyn. I'd recommend this to anyone also if you sign up on tribodyn.com they periodically email up to 25% off codes make the price a little more bearable.
     
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    Hey Awa thanks for the update! I have 3 quarts to dump in my trans this week when I get the motor back in. I also have a 13 so it's good to know you are seeing good results especially in cold weather
     
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    i feel for you cold weather guys. living in so cal i never knew what you were talking about with 2nd gear until i took a trip to reno/tahoe last year.
     
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    It's not so bad, the Speed on a set of good snow tires is a blast. I usually soak the entire under side of the car in Fluid film every fall to slow down the rust. Only a couple more winters for mine and I'll have a new DD and it won't get used in the winter anymore ,
     
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    2011 so far fully stock. Since my kid bought this a month or so ago one of things on the to do list swapping the trans fluid. Read around and seemed the way to go was Tribodyn or Motorcraft. Decided on Tribodyn after chatting a bit with Awafrican and after I drove it and my kid drove it with both agreed it was a noticeable change for the better especially noticeable in cold weather. Haven’t had a chance during summer but hoping it only gets better.
    We used the 75w90 LS, bought 3 liters from Amazon for a little over $70.
     
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    You do not need the LS friction modifier for this trans due to how the LSD is designed "gear driven". It will not will hurt anything but it is not necessary and you can just get regular Tribodyn 75w90.
     
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    @JohnnyTightlips I'll keep that in mind next time we swap it out, I think I ended up with the LS version because it was what was available on Amazon at the time but if it won't hurt any then I'll just wait for the next change and maybe get the plain jane version. Don't see recommended change interval in the manual, I imagine its anywhere between 50-75k miles for transmission oil change.
     
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    Anyone ever try Valvoline SynPower SAE 75W-90 Full Synthetic Gear Oil? It's about half of the cost of Tribodyn at the moment, on amazon ($25 vs. $13 / qt).
    It also comes in flexfill containers (for a buck more) which you can toothpaste-squeeze into the fill opening, so don't have to wait for the thick fluid to go through the usual funnel/fill-tube and potentially wipe up the mess of slightly overfilling.

    https://www.valvoline.co.th/src/PI/Transmission/PI_SYNPOWER_GEAR_OIL.pdf
     
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    And what fluid do you use?
     
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    Tribodyn he talks about it on the first page see quoted post below
     
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