500whp No Aux

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  1. Raider

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    Sounds like a recipe....

    For disaster.


    YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
     
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    I'm sure his EGTs were so low that not only was his car farting snow, but I'm pretty sure he has swirl marks on the pistons now.
     
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    Here's Cory's car with HP and Engine speed on the Y-Axis and speed as the X-Axis
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    Swirl marks on pistons, car is leaning out to 13 afr... That isn't a 500 hp car.

    That is a dyno queen for 1 run.

    Please guys really.

    t3 flanged Garrett 35r being advertised as a 500 hp car on stock fuel system is so fucking off the charts ridiculous.. I really can't put it into words.

    I don't care if everyone cheerleads this as if it is some magnificent feat..

    It isn't... The car is driven on a totally different map, Enki and Ryan admit the car was on the verge of destruction.

    That to me, is a 1 dyno log queen....

    If you are into virtually destroying your engine for the sake of proving you can do something have @ it, but it was presented in a ridiculous fashion of FB.

    You make people think it is common place to be able to afford to run your car on the ragged edge for 1 dyno pull, and you don't explain anything on FB as to your set-up.

    GTFO with your bullshit Ryan.

    You play on here nice, but troll on FB.

    Noone gives a flying Fuck about your ridiculous 1 pull dyno.

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    So ridiculous^^^^^^^^^^^^ You just don't get it man.
     
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    I'll take this a quote at a time

    Dyno read 12.5AFR max and 90 percent of the run was in the mid 11 to high 11's. It ran between 12-12.5 for literally 2-3 tenths of a second. Granted, the AFR wasn't low, but 13AFR's is a big stretch. Dyno conducted @ 25psi. Logs I have on the street multiple pulls @ 29psi. It's definitely a 500hp stock fuel car. The test wasn't meant to be a DD tune from the beginning, so I don't get the big issue about it being a 1 dyno session or a few logged runs.


    Sounds ridiculously because it was essentially done? 6 weeks ago maybe I could see having a stroke on a forum about it. I think this thread proves if you approach it in a methodical way it can be done. Again, because it's not ran daily discredits it none. Many people have dyno maps vs DD maps. In fact, I'll be happy to do one more dyno session @ higher boost pressure. If someone wants to fund it. I'm done shoveling out money for dyno sessions for this thread.

    My car. My way. I definitely don't blow my lid in your threads about how you tune or run your car. I have no desire to do such things because your property is solely your decision. This thread and FB has been entertaining to say the least. So there's always that element of it.

    I done no such on Facebook. I posted my results. The end. I made no ludicrous or false claims about what I ran. It's no different than everyone else's post on FB in that group with dynos. I'm guessing because of the numbers I must submit video evidence, a map, and a dyno log or maybe I should go to multiple dynos to hit a number that doesn't deem it necessary for me to post my setup.

    Me GTFO? I believe you're in my thread btw.

    I play nice everywhere. My posts on FB are no less misleading or vague than someone else's. We are on page 4. Seems there's some interest and curiosity.
     
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    I don't believe Ryan posted anywhere that his 500hp bananas tune should be repeated on anyone's car.
     
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    I see what you're saying @neganox. I think that Rob's just passionate about this because he believes doing this is very dangerous, even with a built motor, and sufficient caveats that make the danger abundantly clear don't seem to be present on FB for the benefit of the people who don't realize the hazard?

    My .02, but what do I know, I quit FB a long time ago, LOL
     
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    We all well agreed that this tune is not DD map, too aggressively tuned and not safe for long run. I believe Rob's has repetitively highlighting this over here or in fb. That's exactly where it created confusion among community if this exercise is safe for DD. I agreed I would not DD with this map - just no way. ZZB is expensive.

    I admired Ryan effort for volunteering his car for this experiments, pushing the car beyond IDC safe limits and taking chances if it going to zzb or not in dyno. Truth is, who dare to do this or you may say it bluntly, who so stupid to do this? But hey, we have Ryan here and collecting precious data for Enki's science project.

    Perhaps, it is all down to miscommunication. After all, Rob, Ryan, Enki are doing it for the benefit of community. Thank you all.
     
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    Neganox, I am never one to discredit someone doing something good for the community..

    I don't know that you see the FB posts, but a responsible person participating in this research would add more info than the hp # and answer questions with one line "stock fuel system".

    You'd have to see how this is presented on FB.

    Anyway, Ryan has done an excellent job of making himself a victim of science when all we were doing at first was asking him to be responsible (on Facebook).

    The other car in question is an entirely different argument, and the same blurry lines as exist.

    Kudos Ryan.

    I see that honesty and sense of responsibility are backseat to making it as if a group of educated, experienced ms3 owners is after you and only you for some reason.

    Do you see me waste this much time on anything that isn't legit? Ask yourself that..
    [doublepost=1457699139][/doublepost]@Raider block me from this thread. I don't have the self control not to answer and I don't have the time to waste.
     
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    I didn't say that, nor would I ever.

    My question here is where is this thread going?
     
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    I'm not going to convince Ryan that his posts on FB are irresponsible, and he won't convince me not to point that out, so nowhere.

    I really don't have the self control not to point these things out, so I am ok with, and would actually like being blocked from the thread.
     
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    This is my thoughts. As per requested, locking this up.
     
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