Suspension by the Numbers - Car Setup How To

Discussion in 'General – Setup & Tuning, PSA Knowledgebase' started by phate, Mar 16, 2016.

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  1. Redline

    Redline I done fucked up for the last time. BANNED Greenie Member

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    I wish our coilover kits put the springs over the rear shocks instead of maintaining the stock, separate position for the springs. I guess it's a clearance issue.
     
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    For what reason?
     
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    Becuz dumb idea.
     
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    It would make calculations easier, and strange things happen with the rear motion ratio and the springs.

    Overall, not a big deal.
     
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    thanks for the write up but any way to get the images back up
     
  6. phate

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    Maybe if you ask really nicely. And send nudes. Nudes always help.

    Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
     
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    pretty please with cherry on top sorry no nudes to give unfortunately
     
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    A lot of the images are still in photofuckers here I believe: http://s64.photobucket.com/user/phate1985/library/phate MS6/Suspension?sort=3&page=1

    I'm able to grab the images through some magic (ctrl+shift+c, find the real image link, wget it to my desktop... ok, so not really magic). I was planning to go through the posts here from @phate and try to correlate the images I found to the post, and then upload the images here. Not sure if that's effective though. I could maybe grab a list, upload them to the forum, and a moderator could just change the links?

    This is one of the more useful posts I've read.
     
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    Sorry guys. I've been meaning to do this, but have been going full bore getting the car ready for the season. I should have time to upload everything to the MSO server in the next couple weeks and add the pics back in.

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    Psssst, been a couple weeks :)
     
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    Yes please. I am going to track the car at cmp at track night and would love to get the car dial in.
     
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    Honestly fellas, the references he cited contain most everything he discussed here anyway. Check 'em out.
     
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  13. phate

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    Updated the 1st post
     
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    Awesome read. Once third car is in my driveway, I am going to start diving down this rabbit hole.
     
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    Interesting series with some seriously flawed perceptions. Why would you include the bump stop in the spring rate calculation? If you're driving around on those your coil springs are way too soft. No consideration for front/rear drive? No consideration for the impact of unsprung weight on ARB? The calculations and theories contained in this post do contribute to predicting understeer/oversteer, but not in a vacuum.
     
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    im only going to reply to your first question since that alone will make it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.

    the bumpstops on these cars are multi stage and function as part of the spring from the factory.
     
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